Now talk about indecision! And she’s a lesbian, too! How do you call a female “dumbass”, I wonder…
Ah, the guilt trip: is she going to be the colonialist westerner by fucking the masseuse, or the disdainful one by ignoring her? Too funny.

You know, as much as some mongers like to sound all macho and stuff, I suspect that a lot of us are conflicted too, when learning the hobby anyway. It’s not exactly natural to overcome propriety or religious upbringing and proposition strangers with money. One gets over that pretty fast, of course…

Now I’m curious, Massage Girl, in your professional opinion, were extras available from that Vietnamese girl? I personally think they were, if only out of curiosity toward the White Woman.

As for MPs hours, a LOT of legit places are open until 10 pm in the Los Angeles area.
Giveaways for extras are two-way mirrors, CCTV, doors that lock, and pretty girls who dress sexy (no underwear is a sure shot as MP reviews said).

You’ll still get surprises either way as all rules can be broken.
I also got FS at a HJ factory (the other providers called the girl a “bad” one b/c she kept rubbers in her purse and was married!).
I also got to third base in a thai place with a girl who knew me well (would likely have gone further with locks on the door). That’s highly unusual as Thais don’t do extras (surprisingly, I know). A few girls used to operate at their own house and after hours, but that was another story entirely.
And like I said, I left a certified FS place once w/o so much as a HJ (recent raid).
If you remember to stay a gentleman (a word used loosely when it comes to us mongers…), results are usually very favorable on average, however.
When guys ask me for advice, I usually tell them to just keep going, be nice and bring cash. The rest will follow. =)

Live Long and Monger
Lord Trident
Tridentmaster

As for the Full Service houses, come on, if you can get the ball rolling immediately it’s time for another hobby. Sometimes being direct relaxes the girls, I’ve gotten undressed and sported a nice boner just so they get the picture.

One mamasan at a strictly HJ only place (yea right) confided in me that she can’t believe hat I get F/S at her place. I played ignorant but she get on blowing smoke my ass.

OTOH, on my first visit at another AMP, a japanese girl in a very tight and sexy sun dress showed up in the room w/o knowing me. When she bent over, I could clearly see that she wasn’t wearing anything underneath. That sure got me going and cleared up any doubts, but what a tip-off to LE!
Sure enough, that place was shut down by the cops only a few months later.

I know it sounds lame to mongers everywhere, but I don’t go to MPs to act like an ass and disrespect the girls, so I avoid the typical advice: grab the girl’s hand and place it on your dick under the towel or put your hand up her skirt.
It IS the best way not to suffer a frustrating tease at a legit place though, as you’re sure to be shown the door in no time… =)

Most of the girls I talked to, legit masseuses or extras providers, hate being grabbed and treated like meat. You may not be getting all you can by being too forward.

That story actually kinda happened that way the day after the big L.A. ‘05 raids. I went to THREE places that day and all I could get was a miserable HJ. All the girls were scared and I had no idea why.

But… I remained a gentleman, including with that K-girl with too much make-up (no, that couldn’t have been you! ) who only gave me a nervous and rushed massage through towels…in what I KNEW to be a full-service house.

After reading the paper the next day, I understood where the vibes came from and went back to that one place right away. The mama-san recognized me and gave me a different girl (super-cute). I had a wonderful time.

This confirms that point you often make that the entrance fee is only the price of poker. You may or may not get lucky (the chances are MUCH better than in bars, of course!) and it depends on a lot of things.
Usually, cash and a smile will go a long way to turn things around on the next try, however. And everybody has bad days – that goes for providers, too. They may be pros, but they’re human first. Even when disappointed, I always give ‘em a break.

But please, Massage Girl, don’t judge us too quickly either: sometimes the guys who end up in your hands are not just horny and inept “dumbasses”… They can be a little scared and broken, too. That was my point.